Meta and Microsoft Limit Employee Use of Claude AI Tools

(rswebsols.com)

45 points | by speckx 51 minutes ago

13 comments

  • MisterMunchkin 20 minutes ago
    My company took away my Claude because it’s too expensive. I feel like there is a reckoning coming. The accountants are finally realising the cost of token maxing.
    • password54321 2 minutes ago
      You realise the subject here is Meta, which is all in on this stuff? Of course they are going to use Muse Spark over Claude.

      >Great Depression style collapse and all the current AI companies go bankrupt.

      Oh this is just a 33 day old doomer account.

    • vablings 13 minutes ago
      That's pretty stupid. Most people who are incurring significant costs are just tokenmaxxing rather than being efficient with usage. You can get 99% of jobs and work done with Haiku/Luna in a collaberating working enviroment.

      I feel like people who are later to the AI game just like to "oneshot" and sink a bunch of usage into generating garbage

      • Tsarbomb 7 minutes ago
        There really is a skill to using it effectively. I've tried coaching some of the devs on my team. Some get it, some don't.

        Our company has been tracking token usage and models used vs output (tickets, story points, PRs, deploys, etc...). A dev got chewed out, even after I warned him, because he spent over $2k in a single month almost exclusively on Opus while his actual productivity in terms of what he delivered was abysmal.

        • n4r9 2 minutes ago
          What do sorry points mean anymore.
    • sergiotapia 14 minutes ago
      which is quite sad because opus 5.5 is really good. i say this as an anthropic hater. i wish I could move away to other models like 6.1 sol or deepseek or whatever, but they just all lack something. i _trust_ opus 5.5

      i hope other labs catch up, especially chinese labs.

  • ashleyn 18 minutes ago
    If you were wondering the same thing I am - it's not about skills loss, quality, and less about money spent. It's more about frontier AI shops dogfooding their own models.
  • vld_chk 5 minutes ago
    If true, it is a huge blow to Anthropic’s revenue stream. IIRC it was reported that the quarter of their revenue comes from just two clients and as the ex-Meta guy who left this July, I am convinced that Meta must be one of the two.
    • binlog 0 minutes ago
      Meta was #1 by far
  • Benard-dev 25 minutes ago
    This is not surprising. Every big lab blocks competitor tools for internal use; it is a data governance thing, not a quality statement.
    • jvanderbot 15 minutes ago
      Right! it seems obvious why: Both these companies want to dogfood their own coding models and stop paying competition.

      You can also read this as diminishing returns / AI isn't good enough, etc, but the simplest explanation is that they don't want to send money to Anthropic.

      • mattm 0 minutes ago
        This is likely the future as well. Down the road, every company will have their own internal coding models.
      • fasterik 9 minutes ago
        This, and in addition to dogfooding, incentivizing employees to be more effective with the cheaper models. A lot of problems don't need anything fancy, but it takes more brain power and engineering effort to make that work. By default humans will take the path of least resistance if it's available.
      • NewJazz 2 minutes ago
        [delayed]
  • rangledangle 6 minutes ago
    We've reached the era of "good enough" ai, it seems. The truth is you don't need the best model in most cases.
  • raincom 11 minutes ago
    Large companies will take the same route as Meta and Microsoft. Small players will go for local LLMs with the right hardware.
  • techdmn 18 minutes ago
    I assume that at shops that both employ engineers and are developing an AI product, internal usage is not about improving productivity, it is about improving the offering. Of course they want employees to use internal tools.
  • VladDanGeorgesc 6 minutes ago
    It may bei cost efficient, but is it wise? We use not only the big US models, but also Chinese ones. This way we can compare who makes the difference. Simplified: Knowledge comes before economic aspects.
  • bpodgursky 20 minutes ago
    Limited to $10,000/employee/month lol. This is just to cut off a few people doing absurd things with low ROI. Don't read too much into it.
    • whiplash451 2 minutes ago
      OTOH "$105 million to Claude Code over a 28-day timeframe"

      $1.4B/year is not a small number, even at Meta's scale, when it's money going to a competitor

    • smy20011 8 minutes ago
      That's what you got from 200$ claude sub.
  • rietta 13 minutes ago
    Maybe I am slow here and everyone is using Claude with credits at max use. But isn't Claude Teams like $25/month per developer for ordinary use? What the heck of these guys doing that makes it get that phenomenally expensive for their use cases? These are presumably well capable engineers who started to use this as an aid right not just throw Fable at everything and loop to the max?
  • waffletower 22 minutes ago
    I should probably know more about Claude's TOS, but it is probably a mistake for these companies not to leverage the plausible deniability of their usage and turn it into a massive distillation resource for their own models.
  • rfgplk 27 minutes ago
    So they're going to fall even further behind? Buying puts on Meta and Microsoft, or even better might give it to Fable to handle it for me
    • bitexploder 22 minutes ago
      Microsoft is like $100bn deep into OpenAI.
      • iAMkenough 18 minutes ago
        I hope leadership isn’t susceptible to falling for the sunk cost fallacy.
    • RealityVoid 17 minutes ago
      Who's ahead, again? Do they have a moat, or just a nice field?
    • outside1234 27 minutes ago
      Microsoft is only limiting employees to $10k a month, down from $100k a month. :)
  • gonzalohm 27 minutes ago
    This may be seen as radical. But I think AI tools should be paid by the employee. After all, you should know how to do your work without AI.
    • bayindirh 18 minutes ago
      If my employer is not forcing me to use a tool and gives me freedom, I'll be perfectly OK to use my own tools which I bought with my own money.

      If my employer is putting scoreboards to see and champion who uses a tool which costs money to use, they shall pay for the tool.

      Sorry, I'm not a ladder climber, yet I'm not mindless enough to bankrupt myself.

    • kittomic 20 minutes ago
      Should they pay for their pipelines too?

      After all, they should know how to compile their software. Any automation of that process is cheating their employer.

    • Jagerbizzle 25 minutes ago
      I could still do my job by typing all code into notepad, but companies don't charge employees for their IDE usage for a reason.
    • robotburrito 16 minutes ago
      The forklift should just be paid for by the employee. After all they should be strong enough to do work without one.
    • basiliobeltran 11 minutes ago
      I am fine with that if I can keep the time saved for my personal use.
    • Avicebron 16 minutes ago
      I don't understand your logic, why would an employee pay for a tool their employer wants them to use?
    • watwut 24 minutes ago
      Employer pays tools used for work. Whether they are used to speed up work or to make it possible.
    • frisbm 21 minutes ago
      "employees should foot the bill for tools that directly benefit their billion dollar employers"
    • iAMkenough 16 minutes ago
      I’d love it if I could bring my own computer to do my work, rather than be stuck with garbage hardware because of an enterprise agreement.