70% of AI revenue comes from OpenAI and Anthropic

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24 points | by johnbarron 3 hours ago

2 comments

  • vikramkr 51 minutes ago
    Ai revenue or datacenter/compute revenue? There's a lot of circular financing right now and there's a pretty obvious bubble for sure but I haven't been able to figure out what exactly this guy's argument is after seeing it a few times recently. Like yeah most ai datacenter spend is those two companies - that's pretty standard monopoly (or monopsony for the cloud providers) dynamics. If you're saying some major percentage of all ai related spending is openai and anthropic spending money on compute - well that's not exactly right because Google etc are also spending money on building datacenters (that's not ai spend in this definition? WTF is ai revenue exactly?) - and that's just pretty much indicating it's a frothy market with two unprofitable companies at the center with huge cogs? We knew that already.

    Feels like they want to make a clean headline grabbing argument about how "70% of all the spending is actually just these two companies" and are ending up with a really muddled headline that's just like yeah that's how monopoloies and duopolies work. When there's a lot more insidious circular complicated shenanigans going on that gets collapsed by this framing.

    • johnbarron 39 minutes ago
      >> When there's a lot more insidious circular complicated shenanigans going on that gets collapsed by this framing.

      All that is discussed in the video, plus those distinctions. And most important, that AI revenue would not exist...if OpenAI and Anthropic would not be funded, by the same Amazon, Google and Microsoft they are buying it from!

      We now have several voices saying the same:

      "Aswath Damodaran: Big Tech Has No Idea How AI Pays Off" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49229981

  • scotty79 28 minutes ago
    Wasn't it always seen as a "winner takes all" business?