Ouch. I've just been building a tool to go through my historic usage. I'm only on the Max 5x plan, and I only use about 40% of my weekly usage allowance. But it looks like even that usage would now cost me $1000/month of API usage under the new plan. That's a 10x price increase.
At least we've got clarity now? But a lot of my value comes from "claude -p" usage, either scheduled tasks while I'm asleep, or responding to incoming emails / voicetexts. Even the email replies will barely fit in $100/month. I'm not going to pay $1000 / month, so I guess it really is time for me to look at the competition and move my programmatic usage to them.
Man, I love the Claude models, and the whole idea of constitutional AI. We built a lot of tools & infrastructure together, but kept a lot of logs as well. I'll be really sad if I mostly have to move on now.
So basically local LLMs are rapidly improving to the point where they can handle many of the automation or local coding use cases on reasonable hardware (say $5k or less). What's the edge for frontier model providers here?
This sucks. I use Claude -p over tailscale to code over voice when I’m on the go for accessibility reasons, and most of the time I do the same while at the computer. Running through $200 in API pricing takes no time. Oh well, time to switch providers I guess.
I use `claude -p` interactively -- I understand why they put it under this new umbrella, but having to open the fullscreen interface each time to not be counted as a programmatic tool is a little disappointing.
If so, then they don't actually have a product. Which -I guess- is what you're saying. I'm worried you might be right. Even though Claude is otherwise really good.
I’d say there is a product there, what remains to be seen IMO is whether the market will bear whatever the price of that product ends up being once Anthropic are finished changing their terms, pricing, and rules of engagement every several weeks…
This is annoying because tools like conductor use the SDK. So this will either be the end of conductor for me or I switch to codex. Interesting dilemma.
Currently, if you use claude -p (non interactive mode) in for example CI/CD, you can use your included subscription tokens.
They are now changing it to be:
You get $20/$100/$200 of "credit" that can be used for claude -p. Problem is, once you are out of that it is the normal API rates (outrageously expensive).
At least we've got clarity now? But a lot of my value comes from "claude -p" usage, either scheduled tasks while I'm asleep, or responding to incoming emails / voicetexts. Even the email replies will barely fit in $100/month. I'm not going to pay $1000 / month, so I guess it really is time for me to look at the competition and move my programmatic usage to them.
Man, I love the Claude models, and the whole idea of constitutional AI. We built a lot of tools & infrastructure together, but kept a lot of logs as well. I'll be really sad if I mostly have to move on now.
You need an AI for that?
- The AI gives human prompts to copy-paste into Claude Code
- Human copy prompts into Claude Code
- The AI reads output from Claude Code
I think that this is much better than the previous situation with total lack of clarity on what is allowed and what isn't.
Which is interesting, since you'd also think that programmers would be their primary customers.
They are now changing it to be:
You get $20/$100/$200 of "credit" that can be used for claude -p. Problem is, once you are out of that it is the normal API rates (outrageously expensive).