19 comments

  • wlesieutre 30 minutes ago
    > The I/O is also a genuine limitation: one USB 2.0 port is functionally useless for data transfer, no Thunderbolt means no fast external storage, and charging occupies your only USB 3 port.

    You're supposed to use the USB-2 port for charging and save the USB-3 port for external accessories, not the other way around

    It only supports 10Gb/s compared to 40 that USB-4 is theoretically capable of, but that's more than enough for anyone in the $600 laptop market.

  • darkteflon 29 minutes ago
    I bought an 8gb M1 Air in 2020 (for what now feels like an absurdly small sum of money) as an experiment in how-cheap-is-too-cheap / chuckable travel laptop. I ended up using it as my main laptop for 2 years without regret, then handed it to my son for school.

    It remains in perfect condition and as delightful to use as the day I bought it (Apple software snafus notwithstanding). I fully expect to get at least 10 years use out of it. Honestly, I feel like it could probably carry him all the way through school - but I’d be embarrassed to say that out loud since that’s another 9 years.

  • havaloc 1 hour ago
    I bought a Neo as an out of the house computer and it really is a triumph. If the Air is good enough for 99% of the population, the Neo as is approaches good enough for 90% of the population at half the cost.
  • nicoburns 1 hour ago
    The Neo is pretty great, and the compromises are totally reasonable at the price point. But if they do a second generation with A19 Pro (and thus 12GB RAM) and a slightly better cooling system then it would really be fantastic.
    • baal80spam 1 hour ago
      > if they do a second generation with A19 Pro

      I'm pretty sure it's a "when", not "if".

      • nicoburns 25 minutes ago
        Probably true. I hope they do it next year, but I suspect it might the following one.
  • headcanon 1 hour ago
    My wife bought a Neo and has been very happy with it. I was wary of the 8gb memory limit but she is running claude code doing web development with a reasonable number of tabs open and no noticeable lag, so I'd say its definitely getting a lot of mileage out of it.

    It honestly seems good enough that it might cannibalize Macbook Air sales.

    • bjelkeman-again 1 hour ago
      I am running Claude Code, Claude Desktop, Codex and Docker Desktop on a last generation Intel Air, that admittedly has 12 GB RAM. One has to be a bit careful with more apps. But I look forward to an upgrade. Maybe a Neo, but more likely a second hand M.
    • crazygringo 1 hour ago
      It might be more likely that it cannibalizes used Macbook Air sales.
  • conception 8 minutes ago
    I think the only gap I’ve come across is that trying to drive two monitors through a display link dock it doesn’t really have the GPU to not have that be laggy.
  • caycep 53 minutes ago
    it also looks really nice. at the Apple Store, the chassis seems well machined. the "cheaper" apple logo insert also clearly also incurred some expense as it fit into the lid perfectly. Hinge, keyboard and trackpad felt good. Design team clearly took time to telegraph craft and quality in their product.
  • briandw 1 hour ago
    We just bought the Neo for our daughter to use at school. My biggest concern was the trackpad. This is the first MacBook to not use a force touch trackpad since they were introduced. I must say that the new trackpad is really good. It's not quite as good as the force touch one in my MacBook Pro, but it's close. We will see how well the Neo holds up over time, but it's off to a good start.
    • codazoda 1 hour ago
      I never use the physical touch on the MacBook Pro or MacBook Air. It’s one of the first things I configure so that a light tap is a click. It somehow feels “faster” to me.
    • nicoburns 24 minutes ago
      The trackpads on the old (pre-force-touch MacBooks) were really good. The force-touch is (IMO) slightly better, but it's a slight difference.
    • sgt 1 hour ago
      I've had many MacBook Pros but never thought about that. I guess mine has too. How do I use it? I just tap lightly to click.
      • dylan604 1 hour ago
        pretty much the only time I use it is to lookup the definition of a word by highlighting it and force clicking. Can't do that with the magic mouse.
  • RubberShoes 1 hour ago
    I still have AnandTech in a prime spot on my bookmarks toolbar. I miss the site so much and welcome any reviews like this that attempt to capture their level of detail when reviewing a product.
  • trollied 1 hour ago
    The “8gb gamble” could be seen as a misleading headline.

    The review is very fair - it’s an amazing bit of kit for the money.

  • orliesaurus 43 minutes ago
    What if you cool the chassis really really well??? Does throttling go away?
  • khernandezrt 1 hour ago
    Id pay an extra $150 for the haptic trackpad tbh
  • guideamigo 36 minutes ago
    This might win big in emerging markets where there is a desire for a high-quality laptop for non-programmers.
  • armanj 1 hour ago
    for vibe coding stuff, especially when you're outside touching grass, I believe MacBook Neo is perfect. it fills the gap between the phone remote control (which is too painful for chatting with ai cli) and, well, not having any dev device.
    • weezing 1 hour ago
      Do people really do that when out in the wild?
      • jlokier 1 hour ago
        It's one of the nicest things to do if you love computers, and great for your health compared with staying indoors.

        > Could one actually work like this, typing and everything? After my “heart-rate discovery” I decided I had to try it. I thought I’d have to build something myself, but actually one can just buy “walking desks”, and so I did. And after minor modifications, I discovered that I could walk and type perfectly well with it, even for a couple of hours. I was embarrassed I hadn’t figured out such a simple solution 20 years ago. But starting last fall—whenever the weather’s been good—I’ve tried to spend a couple of hours of each day walking outside like this

        https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2019/02/seeking-the-prod...

        https://quantifiedself.com/blog/stephen-wolfram-finds-workin...

        • phainopepla2 50 minutes ago
          How do you deal with screen glare?
          • Exoristos 33 minutes ago
            You get an Apple product. At least, for me it was that simple. The ThinkPad I had was pretty high end, and I was using polarized glasses and even a sun shade to work at the park while the girls played. Bought a MacBook and the screen seems to crisply outshine even the sunniest days -- I haven't had to worry about outdoor use since, to my recollection.
          • gib444 43 minutes ago
            Moving to the UK is one option. It's been cloudy for about 7 months!
    • timpera 35 minutes ago
      I'm pretty disappointed in the Neo's battery life though, it limits a lot how much you can do on the go.
  • notfried 1 hour ago
    Why is the author considering Claude Code a "real developer workflow"? Unless you're doing complex tool calling, is CC really resource-heavy?
    • xnx 1 hour ago
      Why does a "real developer workflow" need to be resource-heavy?
      • sannysanoff 25 minutes ago
        IDE written in Java indexing 10K files, compiling + running spring boot apps that take 30 seconds to start on the M4, or C++ compilation, or rust compilation.. Or maybe you were sarcastic?
    • fastball 42 minutes ago
      Yes, Claude Code can use a lot of RAM.
  • lifestyleguru 59 minutes ago
    I already have half dozen over decade old laptops with 4-8GB of RAM in the drawer, don't need any more.
  • fragmede 1 hour ago
    The question thus, is how does the Neo perform if I put it on top of an ice pack?
    • orliesaurus 42 minutes ago
      Yup, was wondering the same, that would be a great follow up article by author
    • Applejinx 36 minutes ago
      Or mod it so it burns your junk but makes you the heatsink :D
  • rebekkamikkoa 1 hour ago
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  • justin66 39 minutes ago
    > Yes, 8GB of RAM is a real limitation. But give it a year and the next version will almost certainly ship with 12GB and a modest CPU bump.

    We'll be able to have six browser tabs open instead of four?