3 comments

  • kernalix7 12 minutes ago
    Would have saved me time on a 3D printer I designed a while back. I integrated Noctua fans and ended up measuring mounting dimensions by hand. Having the official CAD models would have made fan integration a lot cleaner.
    • userbinator 1 minute ago
      Aren't their dimensions standard? Many people replace other fans with Noctua's, after all.
  • egeozcan 1 hour ago
    > To protect our intellectual property, certain features – such as fan impeller geometries – have been slightly modified while remaining visually very close to the actual product.

    Noob question: If someone wants to copy their design with no respect to their intellectual property, can't they just 3D scan?

    • userbinator 4 minutes ago
      Unless they still have an unexpired patent on the design, it's completely legal to clone. Physical objects simply do not have the same type of copyright protection, and there is considerable precedent in making compatible components --- the most notable example being the automotive aftermarket.
    • fecal_henge 59 minutes ago
      I would think so, or by taking cross sections. Its hard to believe they have some miraculous geometry that needs guarding anyway. Maybe they are trying to dissuade people who might try to 3d print an impeller.

      3d models for industrial fan manufacturers (Sanyo,NMB) are widely available.

      • quanto 49 minutes ago
        There could be geometrically tiny optimizations that lead to an outsized impact in noise and flow by turbulence reduction. While optimizing an impeller with computational FSI (fluid structure interaction) is not as hard as before, it still is not trivial. And it's these (perhaps small) optimizations that justify Noctua being 5x more expensive than generic black fan.
        • fyrn_ 20 minutes ago
          I believe the tolerances to the fan housing (which reduces turbulence and thus noise), and the the material stiffness needed for that small tolerance, are the alleged reason there are few copycats. Supposedly getting plastic that rigid is hard. I've tried to find hard numbers and validate that claim, but I wasn't able to. Would probably have to measure an actual noctua fan blade to know. On the other hand, metal printing is attainable now..
    • zbrozek 1 hour ago
      Yes, though the fidelity offered by faithful CAD would be both easier to interpret correctly and might even hint at the CAD feature tree.

      Kudos to them for releasing models useful for integration.

      • egeozcan 46 minutes ago
        Yes, by no means did I comment to take away from the great service they are doing to the builders. I'm a Noctua fan!

        I was just curious.

        • dcminter 6 minutes ago
          > I'm a Noctua fan!

          :)

  • embedding-shape 2 days ago