Jujutsu megamerges for fun and profit

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117 points | by icorbrey 3 hours ago

16 comments

  • rixtox 8 minutes ago
    I found octopus megamerge hard to collaborate - my colleagues don't use JJ so they may introduce changes that would cause conflitcts to my megamerge. When you have a conflict on a change that has more than 2 parents, the conflict resolution becomes unmanageable very quickly. No merge tool can handle more than 3-way merge, so you have to do that manually.

    Eventually I settled on a tree-like megamerge that's more practical: merge 2 branches at a time and merge the merged branch with the next branch. This way I only need to handle 2-way conflicts at a time which is more manageable.

    Also you have to be very careful to decide the order when you (and your colleagues) are going to land the branches, or if you expect any new features other people are working on that's going to conflict with your branches. When using megamerger workflow, most of the problems come from coordinating with other colleagues.

  • sukit 36 minutes ago
    Been trying to get into jj lately, but I rely a lot on VS Code's git gutter to review changes as I code. Doesn't look like jj has an equivalent in VS Code. Anyone got tool recommendations?
    • joshka 5 minutes ago
      jjk or jjview

      I have a PR up for jjk that does the full change as a review changes, and there's another user's PR that allows diffs over arbitrary ranges (i.e. when working out whether the commits that make up a PR are good as a whole rather than individually)

    • altano 9 minutes ago
      visualjj, it’s fantastic
  • nchmy 2 hours ago
    Some fantastic tricks in this article. Will definitely improve my Megamerge game. Thanks!

    Though, I'd be remiss not to mention that this (and any other) jj workflow would be much easier with jjui. It's the best TUI around, not just for jj

    I proposed incorporating some of this article into it. https://github.com/idursun/jjui/discussions/644

  • chaychoong 21 minutes ago
    Great writeup! I've been using `jj parallelize` [1] a lot (and wrote about it here [2]) to fan out a sequence of commits to set up a megamerge, but your stack alias sounds super useful to create them on the fly, rather than at the very end of a work stream. Thanks for the tips!

    [1] https://docs.jj-vcs.dev/latest/cli-reference/#jj-parallelize [2] https://blog.chay.dev/parallelized-commits

  • VerTiGo_Etrex 2 hours ago
    Makes me happy to see the influx of jj posts as of late. Great tool. Roughly this workflow is how I convinced a few friends to finally loosen their death grip on git and try something new.
  • nvahalik 2 hours ago
    Great article, Isaac!

    If anyone is JJ-curious, I also can't recommend the Discord[1] enough. The community is very helpful and welcoming.

    [1]: https://discord.com/invite/dkmfj3aGQN

  • grim_io 2 hours ago
    If this works like I think it does, it might be the missing piece I've been waiting for, for actually trying jj. Thanks!
    • icorbrey 2 hours ago
      Awesome! Tbh other than GitButler idk where I'd even start if I had to recreate this with vanilla Git
  • uhhhd 1 hour ago
    I love this stuff as a hobbyist, but professionally I can't help but think this is all obsolete in the age of agent-driven development. I wish jj was around a decade ago.
    • MeetingsBrowser 55 minutes ago
      I disagree. Easily reviewing and combining multiple streams of parallel work is more valuable than ever.
      • rndhouse 33 minutes ago
        I've been playing around with agent-native source annotation to specifically address the massively parallel work problem. Check it out here: https://github.com/draxl-org/draxl
      • riwsky 35 minutes ago
        With jj worktrees, you can even have agents working on each of those sub-megamerge branches in parallel.
  • taberiand 2 hours ago
    How does the megamerge handle the case where two included branches overlap in changes and a new commit is made that applies to the overlap?
    • icorbrey 2 hours ago
      This is something you have to generally handle manually since absorb won't squash hunks with ambiguous targets, but I typically stack these branches and accept the dependency. I have had instances where this has backfired a little bit re: ordering but thankfully with JJ and the very patient little man in my computer named Codex it's easy to reorder them and end up with the same diff
    • nvahalik 2 hours ago
      The mega merge wouldn't handle that based on the way the article shows. You COULD have a revset that includes stacked changes, though. That does work and is what I currently do.
  • dbt00 3 hours ago
    this is great stuff. I've been ad hoc building a version of this workflow, and it is quite fantastic.

    I'm still not as smooth at figuring out conflicts on mega-rebase.

  • juped 2 hours ago
    It's interesting to see the strange workflows that come from jujutsu users, as someone who works on git workflows.

    There's some counterproductive stuff in there from my perspective but at its core you're keeping up a throwaway integration branch, which is helpful practice if you'll ever care about an integration. It's annoying with git because the interface for updating your throwaway integration branch is very clunky and easy to get wrong.

  • forrestthewoods 1 hour ago
    Great post. Thanks for sharing.
  • incognito124 3 hours ago
    Finally
    • icorbrey 3 hours ago
      Look man life gets busy and I'm horrible at accepting "good enough" lol
      • schpet 2 hours ago
        love to see it, been looking forward to this.
  • LoganDark 1 hour ago
    I saw Jujutsu on HN a few days ago and gave it a try. I picked a bunch of it up in just a couple hours and a couple days later I've completely switched to it for all my projects, it's not even close. Git is dead to me.

    I just wish Jujutsu supported git tags rather than only supporting bookmarks as branches. And I also wish that Jujutsu supported preserving commit dates during rebases.

    One of my absolute favorite things about Jujutsu is how easy it is to manipulate the commit graph remotely without having to manually checkout each commit first. I've been working on some pull requests to their built-in diff editor lately trying to improve the user experience enough that most conflicts will be fixable without having to use a text editor.

    Also, the lack of a special staging area means you also never have to fucking stash your changes before you can do practically anything. Your changes always have a place, you can always go somewhere else and you can always come back.

    • notmywalrus 1 hour ago
      > git tags

      There are commands for manipulating tags (jj tag set, jj tag delete), and recently [1] support for fetching / pushing

      [1]: https://github.com/jj-vcs/jj/pull/9279

      • LoganDark 1 hour ago
        Oh? That's incredibly recent. Thank you for letting me know. As it turns out, I just built jj from source earlier today, so ironically I should already have tags. I'll give it a try.
    • icorbrey 1 hour ago
      Re: commit dates, fundamentally those always change when rebasing because you're rewriting the commit object, but we don't touch the author date unless you explicitly reset it with metaedit
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