Book Review: There Is No Antimemetics Division

(stephendiehl.com)

72 points | by ibobev 2 hours ago

15 comments

  • cws 17 minutes ago
    This article says “Book Review:” but then doesn’t provide the title of a book. I’m confused.

    :)

  • scrumbledober 29 minutes ago
    It's surely not a great book and if you are someone who reads a book every few months i wouldn't recommend it. It's very weird and different and fun, though. I suggest it for people who read a lot of sci-fi and are looking for something that doesn't feel the same as 10 other books they've already read.
    • tshaddox 12 minutes ago
      I'm smack dab in that "reads a book every few months" demographic, and also in that "people who work with formal systems for a living" demographic mentioned in this book review.

      I would absolutely recommend it for people in the vicinity of these two demographics. It's worth it for the originality. Both the plot and the storytelling format are very weird and very original.

  • grimgrin 49 minutes ago
    You can read the original here https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/antimemetics-division-hub

    There is also the rough draft. I've only read the wiki and the first draft of book

    Oddly I gifted the actual book away before reading it (I can buy it again, I thought)

  • AnotherGoodName 1 hour ago
    I wonder if this is for the rewrite or the first version.

    I read the first version and thought the first half was good and that the second half felt clunky. To the point where i don’t recommend it to anyone (not a huge negative, there’s just better books out there).

    • Philpax 1 hour ago
      It seems to be for the first version, judging by the use of the original names, which is odd because the review's from this year.

      The rewrite definitely improves on the ending and its delivery, but it's still largely the same plot, so it may not address all of your issues.

    • mentalpagefault 28 minutes ago
      This review appears to be of the first version despite the recent date. (The rewrite filed the serial numbers off the SCP references and changed character names both for copyright reasons and to provide a degree of separation from the original.)

      I read both versions and agree that the second half of the first version was very abstract and difficult to follow. While I would consider the first half of the new version more edited than rewritten, the second half got a significant overhaul which fixed almost all of my issues with it and made for (in my opinion) a much more satisfying ending. I would recommend giving the new version another chance, though those who read the first version may find the new character names distracting. (Most didn't bother me, but Marion Wheeler -> Marie Quinn never felt quite right.)

      • FabHK 13 minutes ago
        The article says:

        "And at the top of the food chain sits SCP-3125 (renamed in the published edition, but the designation is so perfect I am using it anyway) ..."

    • chroma 1 hour ago
      The author’s other stories like Ra and Fine Structure have the same issue, in my opinion. He has interesting ideas, but cannot seem to write an ending.
    • awestroke 1 hour ago
      The rewrite is excellent
    • threethirtytwo 1 hour ago
      I had the opposite reaction. The second half was garbage, but the first half was so good and original I'd recommend it just for that.
      • Insanity 1 hour ago
        Same! I just finished the book a few days ago. The first half is really good, a cool premise and interesting story. The second half just got a bit too weird for me and by the final chapter I was happy it was finished lol.
        • k__ 1 hour ago
          I liked piecing the story together in the SCP wiki.

          Later I read the first version of the book and it was okay, but the vibes were a bit lost.

          The new version of the book I didn't even finish.

      • yellottyellott 1 hour ago
        > the first half was good and that the second half felt clunky

        > The second half was garbage, but the first half was so good

        so you had the same reaction?

        • cwillu 56 minutes ago
          > To the point where i don’t recommend it to anyone

          > but the first half was so good and original I'd recommend it just for that

          Attension span so short you couldn't even make it to the second half of the sentence before dismissing it

          • moss_dog 9 minutes ago
            I think this comment is unnecessarily harsh.

            To anyone confused (like me), the commenters above had opposite recommendations despite having similar opinions of the book.

      • thinkingtoilet 1 hour ago
        The first few chapters of that book are some of the coolest I've ever read. I agree it really drops off in the second half, but would still recommend it to people.
  • jmgimeno 23 minutes ago
    Couldn't finish it. I suppose it was not for me.
  • xnx 1 hour ago
    24 days ago: Sci-Fi Short Film “There Is No Antimemetics Division” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47363133
  • HardwareLust 1 hour ago
    Good timing, the Kindle version is $1.99 right now.
    • mooxie 35 minutes ago
      I think the dynamic pricing algo is on to us - I see $13.99 at Amazon and clicked on a Google Play Books link for $1.99 that then became $13.99 magically, same for Apple Books.
    • maximinus_thrax 1 hour ago
      Please don't 'buy' digital items from Amazon, because you won't actually own them. Pay extra, support your local bookshop and get a physical copy which you will actually own.
      • root_axis 53 minutes ago
        I basically always start with digital, if the book is good I always buy a physical copy for my shelf.
        • Insanity 49 minutes ago
          I do something similar - but I'm quite picky with books I buy due to limited physical space.
      • tantalor 49 minutes ago
        I borrowed it from the library.

        Support your local library!

      • hectdev 1 hour ago
        This disregards the benefit of a single device that is easy to carry. Love where this is come from so maybe do both if you can.
        • caconym_ 50 minutes ago
          It's a trade-off. I love the convenience of ebooks, but not owning my books is just categorically unacceptable to me. I want my daughter and anyone else coming after me to have free access to them, not to have to jump through Amazon's hoops (if such hoops even exist) for access.

          I have a Kobo that I use to read the non-DRM ebooks I'm able to acquire. One such source is downloads from the Kobo store, when publishers make the non-DRM file available.

        • shimman 42 minutes ago
          I use a kindle but I have never bought a book on the kindle store ever (been using it for 10 years). Totally doable and not hard to avoid... especially since the smaller stores not only have better sales but the author typically gets more money too.
      • sublinear 1 hour ago
        Amazon allows EPUB downloads for publishers that have chosen to go DRM-free.
        • presbyterian 41 minutes ago
          They used to allow downloads of all books, which you could then rip the DRM from, but they got rid of that last year. Huge disappointment, and is why I don't buy books on Kindle anymore.
        • Semaphor 1 hour ago
          First I'm hearing of that, is there an easy way to tell that's available?
          • gh02t 59 minutes ago
            It usually says somewhere in the description I think. E.g. this one (good series, btw): https://www.amazon.com/Shattering-Peace-Old-Mans-Book-ebook/...

            > At the Publisher's request, this title is being sold without Digital Rights Management Software (DRM) applied.

            Not sure how universal that is, but I've seen similar language on several other books.

            • Semaphor 51 minutes ago
              Oh wow, that's hidden. Thanks.

              Wait, OMW book 7? Wtf? Thank you even more! That'll be up next after my Hyperion re-read (RIP Dan)

              • gh02t 8 minutes ago
                It's an enjoyable read, hopefully it's the start of a whole new arc in the series with more to come. My only real complaint is it's short and I want more. If you never read his other Interdependency series, it's also great.
      • renewiltord 1 hour ago
        I'm more interested in rewarding utility because that gives me better things.
  • Schmerika 1 hour ago
    Nice review; covers all the best points of the book, and its place in the world, without too many spoilers.
  • yakattak 1 hour ago
    Crazy timing. My copy of this is being delivered today from the local bookshop. Great review.
  • SendItUp 1 hour ago
    Loved this book. Definitely a mind trip
  • dinkleberg 1 hour ago
    It’s a fun book. Definitely worth a read.
  • gostsamo 1 hour ago
    TBH, the ending of Ra was a big letdown for me and though I like the small stories, I have the feeling that the author has issue building larger arcs. Still curious about this one and might read it just for the premise.
    • k__ 1 hour ago
      Writing good endings is hard.

      I liked Ra, but I liked Fine Structures more.

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  • frankfrank13 1 hour ago
    I have not read this book. I've been avoiding it for a while for the dumbest possible reason, which is that I only associate this book with SWE's.